Lol...of course not..it doesn't mean that they can't lose...
it just means that it will take a dedicated team to do the job right. ...I have to check , but has someone just laid down and declared pb the winner?
As for the win in byz
About 2 months into the world it was pretty much down to BBBB, and censored. .. because between us and them we took out all the alliances that might have challenged for the crown...tthat then became a problem as censored couldn't knock us off and we couldn't knock them out either.... censored did not play well with others , breaking pacts etc, and made a lot of enemies while we decimated anyone around us...aat the end we found a quality pact mate and to win world wonders merged the two together and won...now smiley...correct me if I'm wrong but you are trying to tell me that you have never won a world where this happened??? Cuz I know for a fact you have. ..does that cheapen your win???? I get tired of folks bashing a groups effort of a year or better simply because they used their heads to win..diplomacy, spying , treachery , banging and clanging. .these are all apart of the game, and not everyone is a hardcore grepothug...-p.t.